So we’re at a point where ordering SSKs wouldn’t impact Astute orders in any event, I’m not even suggesting they be built at Barrow am I? Thank you. Let me suggest 10%, and if that is the case, why wasn’t the feasibility of this 10% identified from the early computer simulations? I live in Cumbria and regularly see jobs posted for BAE Barrow (even worked on site myself on occasions), often the positions are fixed term 6 months or 1 year so the staff are regularly changed. Similar delays could now be experienced in the delivery of HMS Anson, another Astute-class vessel, costing £1.3 billion. Ha that’s optimistic. 1. resolute and without fear 2. disposed to venture or take risks "audacious visions of the total conquest of space" "an audacious interpretation of two Jacobean dramas" "the most daring of contemporary fiction writers" "a venturesome investor" "a venturous spirit" 3. unrestrained by convention or propriety "an audacious trick to pull" "a barefaced hypocrite" … Is it down to lack of infrastructure at Barrow, personnel or technical issues? I agree we should maintain a level of secrecy, but is there not a point where scrutiny by the national audit office/defence select committee is not only required but a necessity? She had only been in service for about a year when she was sunk and was a serious loss to the Grand Fleet at a time when its numerical superiority over the German High Seas Fleet was slim. https://www.navylookout.com/in-focus-royal-navy-submarine-special-forces-delivery-systems/, https://exoatmospheric.wordpress.com/2018/03/21/a26-the-disruptor-submarine/, https://saab.com/globalassets/commercial/naval/submarines-and-warships/submarines/a26/saab_kockums-a26_brochure_a4_final_aw_screen.pdf, https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15402070.russians-caught-lurking-near-faslane-naval-base-to-eavesdrop-on-nuclear-submarines/, https://www.navylookout.com/another-royal-navy-supplier-goes-under-the-closure-of-appledore-shipyard/, Nuclear submarine HMS Audacious sails for sea trials. The ship was sunk by a German naval mine off the northern coast of County Donegal, Ireland, early during the First World War. A revised schedule for whole Astute Programme was approved as recently as March 2018 with Audacious to be handed over to the RN in August 2019. A 65m Shipwreck and a technical diving 'career' hanging by a thread. I have been to Barrow and there is a culture of clock watching and demarcation in the work place it is not a well functioning team and the management are largely to blame along with the unions who seem more interested in lining there own pockets than actually delivering. A parliamentary written answer stated that Audacious was commissioned on 3 … In my opinion a way has to be found for proper and full parliamentary scrutiny without jeopardising security. hms audacious The Royal Navy’s latest billion pound nuclear submarine finally edges out of its dry dock as it prepares to take to the water for the first time. Trouble ahead for the UK nuclear programme? The Mod admits the “scheduled risk provision is being reviewed” and longer-term “it may be necessary to seek to increase this”. To help do that, work on the next submarine, HMS Anson, had been “paused”, though the MoD promised to “significantly improve the situation in the medium term”. Let our Nato partners operate them. How much has the fire on Audacious caused this delay? A famous picture of HMS Audacious sinking after striking a mine. Technical problems have caused a delay to the completion of British nuclear-powered attack submarines, the Ministry of Defence has admitted. The bigger picture is that another UK shipyard is at risk of closure, & our existing subs are visibly spread too thinly. It isn’t. The Audacious class is a might or might not exist in my Alternate worlds. If we could plug into a production run of dozens of boats, we could bring down the unit cost for both the Royal Navy and the US Navy. If I’m wrong then all the better, nothing is lost. I doesn’t offer much hope for dreadnought if they are still struggling with a mature design batch 2 or not. If they haven’t sorted themselves out after 3 something is critically wrong with the whole system. HMS Audacious was essentially an improved Orion-class dreadnought (our tier IV Orion in WoWs) enlarged and improved with the same guns and better armour.Our Iron Duke tier V in turn is an improvement on the KGV class. The not-so secret sinking of a British Batttleship and a chance encounter with an apex predator. BAE won the £1.2 billion contract to develop HMS Audacious in 2012. Largely through project management improvements where worker spend less time standing around waiting for their turn because work is scheduled better as the builder progresses up the learning curve. It’s eye watering from an expense perspective. Could it be that the MOD has no option but ride, this delinquency due to this fact? I doubt such information is public. Still it keeps a little town employed in the north west. At 9 pm, Audacious capsized and blew up. Work stops at noon on Friday. It’s like BAE Systems designing and building a stealth bomber for the RAF from scratch and only building a handful! Referencing Recs comment on how the French do it. So fewer man hours to build the ship, therefore lower cost. Audacious’ construction is largely complete, with 96.2% of the total cost already sunk. Some, correctly in my view, chose the Grouse. The Royal Navy’s fourth Astute Class submarine has sailed from the BAES shipyard in Barrow in-Furness for her new home at Her Majesty’s Naval Base Clyde In fact, the source of the mine was often given. Audacious was rolled out of the Devonshire Dock Hall in April 2017 and nine years after the delivery of the first boat HMS Astute, it increasingly difficult to use historical issues to justify problems plaguing the programme. New nuclear submarines delayed by technical problems A lot of comments here and everyone seems to be guessing. HMS Audacious The King George V super-dreadnought class was the pinnacle of naval design at the time. If we threw our lot in the Americans on SSNX, at least we could keep a hand in the game. HMS Audacious was launched in 1897 as the cargo liner SS Montcalm and changed names multiple time, becoming HMS Audacious when she was a dummy warship between 1914-1916, and SS Polar Chief. Britain still leads the world in talking itself down. “It’s not just about increasing the availability of existing submarines, we have got to start delivering the A boats on time and we MUST deliver Successor [Dreadnought] on time” said Halton. HMS Audacious yet to begin sea trials, risking further decline in Royal Navy submarine numbers, In pictures – Royal Navy submarine, HMS Audacious sails for the first time, The future of Royal Navy attack submarines. Charity Registered in England No. But in the UK that has all been stood on its head because of the Treasury’s insistence that all boat/ships be built to exactly the same schedule. This modification produced a new and much improved class of battleship, a rare case where a battle-cruiser design influenced that of a battleship. Perhaps more worrying than the delay to Audacious is the knock-on effect on the rest of the RN nuclear submarine programme. Hisutton isn’t something I’m that familiar with, to me it’s just another page that presents some basic info on the sub in a quickly, easily digestible way, along with real photos of some of the actual kit for a sense of scale, not just cgi. Construction of HMS Audacious has fallen yet further behind schedule. Their […]. The Astutes are world Class. Some years ago a bird was selected to represent our national character, the Robin. She was formally named on 16 December 2016 and was launched on 28 April 2017. This will presumably have a knock-on effect with Anson, Agamemnon and Agincourt and who know’s if the remaining Trafalgar’s can soldier on long enough to prevent numbers dropping even further. January 2021? There needs to be an speedy enquiry with strong powers to call witnesses and apportion blame so the taxpayer knows what is going on and it doesn’t happen with boats 5,6,7 and Dreadnaught class. The 97-metre-long, 7,400-tonne nuclear-powered submarine is the fourth of seven vessels joining the Astute-class programme. Definitely not saying this is causing the delay. From what is said in the article, the attitude of the BAE directors is completely and utterly wrong. HMS Audacious is part of the Astute-class programme (Picture: Royal Navy). The idea was to have four rows of aircraft running the length of the hangar, instead of the three in the Illustrious and Implacable classes. However, the battle-cruiser HMS Lion, completed in May 1912 with her foremast ahead of the fore funnel, showed that this was a far better arrangement than that in the Orions, where it was the other way round. There have been up to six Royal Navy ships with the name Audacious. Audacious non operational for a further 17 months delays in the next three Astues due to this delay being likely, an expected knock on effect to the Dreadnought project, three of our T45s non-operational, further reports yesterday 24/10 (Plymouth Live) that they are having more trouble in warm waters and 6 of the T23s non-operational due to refits, extended maintance etc and new OPVs having to go back to the yard because of glued on bolts. The crew of HMS Audacious also undertake a number of defence engagement, charity and outreach tasks in the community around Barrow-in-Furness, where she was constructed. It is clearly serious and fundamental, so likely to do with the reactor, built elsewhere I believe. Other problems emerged around the sophisticated drafting software used to design the class. The sheer complexity and sophistication of these boats is absolutely jaw dropping. Unit history. If you look at the usa Virginia class boats they have been produced at a steady drumbeat and updated and the unit cost has come down . That is not the HMGov fault, for once. HMS Audacious is in effect a ‘batch II’ boat with some significant internal changes from the first 3 boats and there is a long and complex legacy of political and industrial mistakes that have affected the Astute programme. But the car park is full of X5s. Armed with Spearfish torpedoes and Tomahawk land attack missiles, the Astute class submarines are the most highly-capable submarines ever built for the Royal Navy. Registered in England No. You quote hisutton what a joke. The First Audacious. I doubt Barrow wants that, nor should it be necessary, so someone somewhere needs to step up to the plate, and resolve these inhibitors before that great town and yard face the unthinkable. The Audacious class was meant to fix the problems of the Illustrious class. HMS Audacious (CV-1943) Back to Commonwealth Ships List . I thought BAe had help from General Dynamics on training apprentices and labour etc, so are they still undermanned to maintain or improve productivity. Someone needs to be held to account and heads need to role. Jesus f***ing christ. We are no longer a SSK nation and we will gain nothing from building them. Getting quality, world beating boats into the RN Submarine service, is the priority, not propping up BAE Systems. HMS Audacious left Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, for its first outing and made very little noise due to its state-of-the-art anti-acoustic tiles, which ensure it … Writing to the Chair of the Public Accounts Committee he admitted publicly for the first time that Audacious will not be handed over to the RN until January 2021. Of course more would need to be ordered, I’m even saying wait for block V. Perhaps existing RN stocks may be obsolete in 15 years, sure, I expect they’ll expire too if unused won’t they. So, the remaining 25% is causing considerable slippage and cost overrun? I don’t like to see Russian subs, which outnumber our Astutes 10 to 1, floating about so close to our mainland & our bases, with what looks like near impunity; https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15402070.russians-caught-lurking-near-faslane-naval-base-to-eavesdrop-on-nuclear-submarines/. HMS Audacious (S122) The Royal Navy’s Astute-class nuclear-powered submarines are among the most sophisticated underwater vehicles ever constructed. Frontline Tech: Why Does The Royal Navy Want Huge Unmanned Submarines. She commissioned at Portsmouth on 21 October 1913 for service in the Second Battle Squadron of the Home Fleets. The Royal Navy will have to wait an extra 17 months for the nuclear-powered attack submarine. I know it won’t help speed up the Astutes, or lead to more of them, & would cost another billion or more, but is it not time to review that decision in 1992 to switch to all SSNs, & start looking at building some SSKs? A lot. Donations via PayPal towards running costs of this website would be most welcome. The defence parliamentary committee is on record as saying the cost of an additional boat has already been wasted in this fashion. Audacious was initially due to enter service in August 2015, but this had already been delayed until January 2018. Company Limited by Guarantee. He claimed his grandfather was on a … It would be best to find a close international ally with SSN / SSBN construction expertise to redevolop the existing wasteland adjacent to Cavendish Dock Road, near the existing BAE site. The operational handover of HMS Audacious to the Royal Navy has been delayed by 17 months due to "technical issues" in production. You also talk about the Saab A26. The MoD says this delay to Audacious will not add to costs because financial approval is at the programme level (rather than by individual boat) and includes a contingency. Without some workable ideas, & if nothing more is done, Appledore is destined to close it’s doors for good. The problem is barrow is a small site and I believe it is not possible to enlarge the site or the submarine assembly hall. Exactly what faults have caused the delay could not be disclosed by the Ministry of Defence, as doing so could jeopardise security and capability. It really pains me to say it, but when the force dropped from 12xSSN to just 7, it just doesn’t make economic sense any more to carry on in the present manner. The convenient secrecy surrounding the submarine programme prevents any admission about what exactly the issues may be, and more importantly, who should be held accountable for them. If so, such a mindset hopefully needs to change and that can only be accomplished by having an alternative shipyard willing to share the work? We need to stop gold plating and build to our budget . Even rubbish suggestions serve as expressions of public support. The delays to HMS Audacious risk the RN’s attack submarine force declining even further, at least temporarily, down to just 5 boats. There have been a few incidents with Astutes having mishaps whilst operating in littorals which have reached the press. Wreck Dive on the HMS Audacious in Malin Head, Donegal Ireland Over staffed over paid too many levels of management processes immature. In addition, the Barrow site was turning out nukes in significant numbers during the cold war so, unless someone can state that it was somehow larger back then, the site size cannot be such a significant issue. 233480. HMS Astute, HMS Artful and HMS Ambush are already in-service with the Royal Navy. HMS Audacity was a British escort carrier of the Second World War and the first of her kind. It seems we now won’t have 7 SSN’s again until 2026 at the earliest (running just 6 looks to be an increasingly major challenge) by which time Astute herself will be roughly 18 years old, but the Dreadnoughts won’t be anywhere near finished. Set-backs in the timings of the delivery to the Royal Navy have not caused the programme to overrun in costs, according to the MOD. The two yards would increase capacity, use the same talent pools but most importantly create competition. Successive governments have chopped and changed ship numbers ,delayed orders ,cut orders or extended builds all these things add massively to build costs and the ability to retain and attract staff. HMS Torbay is set to be decommissioned this year, with her replacement delayed The report also revealed that the cost of building the four new subs rose by nearly £200 million last year, according to the newspaper. I can still remember the ’90s when they were talking about ‘hitting above our weight’ on the world stage. Audaciousarrived at Portsmouth from Plymouth at the end of July, 1913 to prepare for gun and torpedo trials following her full power steam trial. Groton is the main build site that receives parts from Newport News and Pasagoula. In its November 1942 design (under which HMS Eagle was laid down), the Audacious class was to have hangar accommodation for 69 aircraft of 13ft 6in width, or 57 of 40ft x 18ft. Anything that potentially saves pilots, or crew, having to fly, or sail, miles into hostile territory shouldn’t be considered obsolete. This is patently absurd. 1785. Being realistic, honestly can’t see another way for Barrow to survive long term, unless we go back to 12 SSN’s and get a steady drum beat of ‘affordable and effective’ national production in place. I had a tour of Newport News it absolutely massive and a hive of activity and the workforce are highly motivated and very proud of the work they do . Tail is wagging the dog. Precisely SD67, un-productive and no work ethic. I foresee block V versions though, given what they can do, as still being of some use by then. £24,000 to £27,000 Per Year + Competitive Bonus Scheme & Choice of Flexible Benefits, Will be used in accordance with our privacy policy, BFBS, Chalfont Grove, Narcot Lane, Gerrards Cross, Buckinghamshire, SL9 8TN If £300m for improvements at Barrow was considered worthwhile, why not do similar for Appledore & save the yard in the process? That’s funny although they look great but they are not long-range submarine. No one knows what the issue is that has delayed the Audacious. Under the command of Captain Cecil F. Dampier, the Audacious left Lough Swilly in Scotland early in the morning for its gunnery exercises North of Ireland with six other super-dreadnoughts, including the King George V and the Orion. http://www.hisutton.com/A26.html https://exoatmospheric.wordpress.com/2018/03/21/a26-the-disruptor-submarine/ (PDF) https://saab.com/globalassets/commercial/naval/submarines-and-warships/submarines/a26/saab_kockums-a26_brochure_a4_final_aw_screen.pdf. I say again, 7 boats simply isn’t a viable number to build (and sustain) an industry on. This highly complex enterprise has many highly interdependent parts. It was followed by HMS Ambush in 2013 and HMS Artful in 2016. Boat 4 or HMS Audacious ' handover was delayed from 2019 to 2021 due to "emergent technical issues". Surely if they increased the size of the build site, it should improve productivity and perhaps allow to boats to be built at the same time? 407270, 'Technical Issues' Push Back Delivery Of HMS Audacious. Programme cost summary Regular changes to staff over the contract is an institutional mess up easily seen ahead of time and easily sorted put in place by senior management. 4 boats and approximately 18 years into construction surely means those excuses don’t fly anymore. HMS Audacious (CV-1943) Back to Commonwealth Ships List . If there was more transparency about the issues are and how they are being addressed, there could be a little more sympathy. audacious (adj.). Monday to Thursday there’s a stampede for the time clocks at 4.15 pm you need to be careful or you’ll get run over. From an outsider, this just is unacceptable considering the batch 1 and 2 must be virtually 95% identical in exterior terms, and that means the redesigned interior must be at least 75% the same? I always had read that the HMS Audacious was lost to a mine. HBR's List of Audacious Ideas for Solving the World's Problems by Robert J. Shiller , Doc Searls , Ellen Goodman , Wayne Porter , Linda A. Hill , Kent Lineback , Parag Khanna , Karan Khemka , Eric Schmidt , Bruno S. Frey , Margit Osterloh , Enric Sala , Bruce Gibney , Ken Howery , Ellen Gustafson , Arun Majumdar , Gregg Easterbrook , That’s why when they said they didn’t see much of a future in the UK, the government shat itself and gave them special status to make their UK businesses more secure. Monopolies are only viable if quality standards are maintained and project timings strictly adhered to. HMS Audacious, the fourth submarine in the range, was launched in April 2017. The shores around the UK are littoral, & our scarce Astutes should be freed up to focus on blue water, what they’re best at. The four ships of the King George V class of the 1910 building programme were to have been repeats of the Orion class. Normally it would be expected that price and construction times for a series of vessels would reduce over the production run but somehow the opposite has been achieved. Here is a top build for the RN with a boat that is 4th in the series. We have to aim a gun at BAE Systems head and say, ‘ No more, deliver quality SSN’s on time and budget from now on, or we go elsewhere for our next generation SSN’. Isn’t that a more expensive way of doing it than VLS anyway? Ministry of Defence images ©Crown Copyright. Does not this confirm that it is time for a small force of 5 to 7 SSKs based on the latest German or Swedish design. We will have to start designing and building Astute replacement boats, as soon as the last Dreadnaught is under construction. Perhaps the government needs to go as far as threatening direct control, nationalization even if they can’t get their act together? This site has no official endorsement by the RN or MoD. But there are too many examples of solvable problems not solved ahead of time, be that at the industrial capacity level or maintaining the capability in a better way across that spectrum.” There is clearly considerable annoyance within the RN about BAES’ failures. It has been said before that 12 SSN’s / SSBN’s is the optimum force to maintain a steady drumbeat of delivery every 2-3 years but it only works if the builder can actually grasp the challenge and meet the time-scales. HMS Audacious was the lead ship of the Audacious-class ironclads built for the Royal Navy in the late 1860s. The thing won’t leave until mid way through next year due to industrial malpractices that have been covered up. No one gets sacked from barrow. Built at an economic speed, the same program money would build more ships but the Treasury doesn’t care about that. Is Audacious still in the water or back out of it? At the time it was thought that Audacious had hit a floating mine disturbed by either Ajax or Centurion although a torpedo attack was not completely ruled out. Perhaps, with the tiny numbers required by the RN today, we have to just stop and admit it’s now beyond us…. This is so frustrating, I could understand the initial issues with astute but I thought that was behind BAE and that these delays where entirely down to the government slowing the build rate until dreadnought started construction. Several previous vessels of the Royal Navy have borne the name. BAE won the £1.2 billion contract to develop HMS Audacious in 2012. After serving for just 6 years she was laid up in early 2016, ostensibly to save manpower, and then started a lengthy major refit in Portsmouth in early 2018 which included preparation for the PIP. As a country we are still borrowing 14,000,000 GPB every year to distribute to our former colonies, two of whom are now nuclear armed, and are among the many who vote against the U.K. in world fora with regularity. The Audacious class was meant to fix the problems of the Illustrious class. Delays to HMS Audacious will impact the delivery of Anson, and likely Agamemnon, Agincourt and possibly even the Dreadnought programme. From the limited public information available, here we briefly assess the situation. Frankly I think it should be nationalised and run on a franchise model make bae bid every decade for the right to operate it. Astute is the first program that was contracted to this ludicrous policy. To help do that, work on the next submarine, HMS Anson, had been “paused”, though the MoD promised to “significantly improve the situation in the medium term”. Too few it looks like. It looks like because of bureaucracy, delay, & limited capacity, ordering more Astutes would now just push back Successor, which would mean risks taken extending OSDs? Since the prior treatys expired the Royal Navy was able to design the ships they wanted rather than the compromises they had had to build. To kickstart the building of SSKs I honestly think we should perhaps look at something like Sweden’s A26, with a tech transfer. What I see is a lack of SSKs or equivalent deterrent, to guard choke points, giving adversaries easier access to waters around our coast than needs be. The A26 would surely be a better, safer option for SBS insertion than that ‘caravan of death’ reported here previously; https://www.navylookout.com/in-focus-royal-navy-submarine-special-forces-delivery-systems/. The Audacious in WoWs would be a … So whatever it is they’re up to there, why use them & risk them in that way, rather than a purpose built SSK? Hopefully, Trenchant’s material state is good enough for her to remain operational to cover the gap left by the delay to audacious. Our intended ‘strike’ aircraft for many decades to come, the F35Bs, can’t even reach that far if they needed to. HMS Audacious left Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, for its first outing and made very little noise due to its state-of-the-art anti-acoustic tiles, which ensure it is no louder than a baby dolphin. The operational handover of Audacious to the Royal Navy has been delayed by 17 months due to technical issues in production. A lot of the initial delays and cost increases were undoubtedly a mess of the MoD’s own making by abandoning any attempt at a regular drumbeat of orders in the 90s by not pursuing a second batch of Trafalgar’s. This modification produced a new and much improved class of battleship, a rare case where a battle-cruiser design influenced that of a battleship. It was followed by HMS Ambush in 2013 and HMS Artful in 2016. BAE were preparing to depart Audacious mid 2018 so clearly thought she was ready for trials. It might be the 4th boat but many of the staff could be new. As has been said, it really doesn’t bode well for Dreadnaught! The USN already has SSN designs, why waste time and money on one that isn’t tailored to its needs? Exactly what faults have caused the delay could not be disclosed by the Ministry of Defence, as doing so could jeopardise security and capability. A26 or otherwise. The only casualty was Petty Officer William Burgess of HMS Liverpool, who was killed by a large amour plate that was thrown 800 yards to his ship. I do genuinely hope that people with far greater knowledge than the likes of me put forward some better ideas that are worthy of action, perhaps you can suggest something better? A26s would certainly need modifying for UK service, the RN doesn’t hot-bunk as the Swedes do for a start. Perhaps a collaborative effort on a future joint SSN design with the Americans, will ultimately be the only option for Barrows survival? Alth… HMS Audacious was the fourth and last King George V-class dreadnought battleship built for the Royal Navy in the early 1910s. After completion in 1913, she spent her brief career assigned to the Home and Grand Fleets. HMS Audacious The total cost of the Audacious was £1,918,813, which would be over £200 million ($300 million) today. They were designed as second-class ironclads suitable for use on foreign stations and the ship spent the bulk of her career on the China Station.She was decommissioned in 1894 and hulked in 1902 for use as a training ship. https://maps.app.goo.gl/M4u9wJn7qBB5oR7EA. What a load of rubbish. Audacious slowly flooded, … Similar delays could now be experienced in the delivery of HMS Anson, another Astute-class vessel, costing £1.3 billion. Would this mean we build our own to a common collaborative design, or manufacture sections for assembly in the US I wonder ? The UK still has the skill-base to design them (at BMT for instance), but there seems no capacity at Barrow to build them. Audacious is stated to be handed over in January 2021. This may be true but should be seen in the context of the existing gigantic cost-overruns of the Astute programme which already runs to several £Billions. Jackie Fisher if alive would be ripping someones head off. The MoD said that Audacious had required “unplanned repair and rework”. Alth… Halton replied: “Part of the solution is accelerating and delivering new build projects on time… industrial partners and serving personnel are working tremendously hard to achieve the availability we get. An MOD spokesperson said: "The Audacious … Build sections here and have them built in the US. 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